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27 August 2017 21:22 Post ID: #320593
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My take on the lack of patience being shown.

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I know there is another thread about supporters patience, but I wanted to add my two penneth worth as to why I think there are more than a few reasons people are running out of patience. Lets review.

The first is that after establishing ourselves in the Premier League, in the 2013/14 season we decided to discard many of the last remnants of the Paul Lambert team responsible for helping us achieve this. Players like Holt, Ward, Jackson and Barnett were discarded for players considered an upgrade. They were replaced with the likes of RVW, Johan Elmander, Jonas Gutierrez, Joseph Yobo and Player of the Season Carlo Nash. This total dismantling of the team that had kept our place at the top table of English football saw us inevitably sleepwalk to relegation. Even when it was obvious to everyone that Hughton was not getting the level of performance from his new signings required to maintain a place in the Premier League we were asked for patience and our board fiddled while Rome burned leaving it far too late for any new coach (let alone the coach of the youth team) to save us from plying our trade in the Championship the following year.

After this disastrous, yet fully avoidable, season our CEO earned himself a nice 7 figure bonus, when 1/3 (or so) of the staff at the football club, many of whom would have had little to no influence over events that took place on the pitch the previous season, earned their P45 due to relegation. In addition to this, we were asked for patience while our board "scoured" Europe for a suitable replacement for our previous season's fallen leader. Once the search of Europe was completed, our patience was rewarded with the revelation that the best man for the job was at Colney all along. And in a move reminiscent of when club legend Bryan Gunn was handed the managers job, another hero from my youth, Neil Adams was set up for failure by our BoD when he was handed a position he was woefully unequipped to succeed at. Then once it became obvious that Adams was finding it difficult to get the required performances out of inspired signings like Carlos Cuellar, Jos Hooiveld, Kyle Lafferty and the often injured Vadis, our directors dithered until January where we found ourselves outside of the play-off places and a long way short of the expected automatic promotion spots.

Now admittedly, at this point the BoD, completely out of character, acted decisively in appointing Alex Neil just in time for him to turn our season round, which culminated in a great day out at Wembley, resulting in a return to the top flight at the first time of asking. The problems for Alex Neil came though when, other than the addition of a couple of midfielders, a sick note in Jarivs, a Congolese mercenary masquerading as a striker and a Left winger that the manager was determined to play out of position at left back, we went with many of the same squad of players that had seen us relegated 2 seasons previous. There was a distinct lack of the desperately needed defensive reinforcements. This was compounded by the decision to allow Bradley Johnson, a player that provided much needed bite, determination and leadership to a team bereft of all of those qualities, to leave for £7m to Derby County. The January addition of Ivo Pinto and Timm Klose did little to assuage the belief that City had once again missed the boat in their bid for survival. As expected, the 10 defeats in the final 15 games of the season following the end of the January transfer window, proved that these signings were indeed far too little far too late and City were relegated with a whimper loosing 5 of their last 6 games. During this time yet again we were asked for more patience, as the BoD dithered once more over sacking a manger out of his depth, resulting in a 2nd relegation in 3 years.

So if the 2015-16 season was a mirror of the 13-14 season, our return to the Championship after an all too brief flirtation with the top flight also had a sense of de ja vu about it. The addition of Sergi Canos (who was not needed as displayed by his sale 6 months later after just 3 appearances), Alex Pritchard and Nelson Oliveira whetted the appetite for the season, but the defensive reinforcements that we had been crying out for since the beginning of the previous season were still conspicuous by their absence. The season started with 6 wins 2 Draws 1 defeat but only 1 clean sheet, this was enough though to see us sit atop the league, earning the manager a bit of patience. Then came our trip to St James Park and despite being 3-1 up with 20 minutes to go, the defence, that all knew had been in desperate need of new bodies to, paraphrasing a previous manager, “lend the boys a hand” imploded and gave away the lead with 2 injury time goals, ending in a 4-3 defeat. It was all down hill for Neil from there. And while our Chairman fleet-footed and care-freely danced the lambada on the BBC, City went on a run of 4 wins in 14 games, including 5 straight defeats, which put paid to any chance of promotion. Again the Board tested our patience and dithered once more on the future of a manager who looked like a deadman walking. Then in one of the most bizarre (which is saying something for our BoD) decisions they've ever made, Alex Neil was allowed to give his press conference on the eve of the Blackburn game and he was then informed that his services were no longer required. Alan Irvine was put in temporary charge, while the board once again called for patience as they looked for the new man/men to take the club forward. Irvine did a good job, but sadly with only ten games in charge and despite 4 win from the last 6 games, including a 7-1 hammering of eventual play-off finalists Reading, the board's patience with Alex Neil gave Irvine too much to do with not enough time. Had a change been made following a run of 8 defeats in 11 games, who knows maybe Irvine could have done what Neil managed 24 months earlier and seen us back to the top flight with a play-off win at Wembley. But instead of acting decisively the board once again decided to go for patience.

And that brings us to where we are today. Now don't get me wrong, I want to see Farke be a success at Carrow Road. I was full of hope at the beginning of the season. Following battling back to earn a draw at Fulham on the opening day I was hoping for great things from a City team that looked full of energy and focus. I hoped that the addition of Franke and Zimmerman would add a bit of steel to our back four, but following us shipping in 8 goals in two games and the horror show against newly promoted Millwall yesterday I can freely declare that hope does not spring eternal. I don't know about you but after 4 years of mistakes (not including previous seasons where failing after failing lead to us ending up in League 1), I'm drained of hope and I'm certainly about all out of patience with the people running the club.









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Re: My take on the lack of patience being shown.

I'd completely forgotten about Yobo and some of those others
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27 August 2017 21:29 Post ID: #320594 - in reply to #320593
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27 August 2017 22:45 Post ID: #320595 - in reply to #320593
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It is very hard to argue with any of that. Just about sums up the last few years.
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28 August 2017 08:24 Post ID: #320606 - in reply to #320593
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Continuing saga year in year out and with different managers - totally nutty really, as if its their brief to keep us basic, though this season seeing basic would be an improvement.
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28 August 2017 12:18 Post ID: #320607 - in reply to #320593
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Just had a wonder over to pink un and Michael Baileys latest article wherein there is a photo of DF. Now I passed by it pretty quick at first to continue reading but stopped in my tracks and scrolled back because of the impression it instantly left on that fast scroll pass, which went along the lines of "oh that didnt look good that shot of DF and Norwich standards". He was looking a bit bedraggled compared to the smarter track suited PL and AN we've been used to but the actual look was that of a growling hyena. Probably fair comment really given the pathetic performance he was having to suffer. Maybe the Pink Un chaps could pick a bit better shots than that one, after all we've got enough embarrassment to deal with without having our manager picked on cus that's our job.
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28 August 2017 12:26 Post ID: #320608 - in reply to #320593
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That post does accurately sum up all that is wrong at the club.
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28 August 2017 16:40 Post ID: #320615 - in reply to #320593
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A short concise and damning history of the last few years of Norwich City.
Can't argue with any of that.
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28 August 2017 17:57 Post ID: #320616 - in reply to #320615
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I never liked Alex Neil and still dont , but he seems to be doing well at PNE , and Hughton got Brighton promoted . I am rapidly coming to the conclusion that its not manager after manager ,and different team after team , but a general malise at the club that is coming from the very top of NCFC where we have pensioner owners with no football background making ludicrous statements to newspapers , and a board that contains a nepostitic appointment of a civil servant and a failed dancing politician . They must all be giving out a feeling that all their staff that NCFC is some sort of jolly little family toy and that harsh , modern football management is not liked . Throughout our decline since the mid 90s the owners and board have presided over catastrophe after catastrophe . It is time they went and let our club move forwards
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31 August 2017 21:09 Post ID: #320753 - in reply to #320593
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Spot on YB
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31 August 2017 21:29 Post ID: #320754 - in reply to #320593
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Point taken YB
But I shouldn't pay much heed to Alex Neil
He'll fall on his arse
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31 August 2017 21:45 Post ID: #320756 - in reply to #320754
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Ha ha Suffolk ......he more than likely will ! !
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31 August 2017 21:48 Post ID: #320757 - in reply to #320593
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Totally agree YB.
We have been critical of so many managers, coaches and players who all seem great until they come here and fail. The club is the common denominator.
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04 September 2017 13:30 Post ID: #320812 - in reply to #320593
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As a matter of interest which clubs DO have boards of directors knowledgeable of the game? I cant think of any. The very successful ones are in effect autocracies. Toys for their billionaire owners. They throw money like confetti and sack with impunity. They can afford to. No our board haven't sold on. But have we had any everything has a price offers? Nope!!!!
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04 September 2017 14:17 Post ID: #320814 - in reply to #320593
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They have pointed a supermarket MD, Comedian, Debt collectors, Failed politician and friends to the board who all knew nothing about football.
There is where the problem lies.
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04 September 2017 14:49 Post ID: #320815 - in reply to #320814
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Perhaps other clubs do have Board s and owners without football knowledge , but these people may well have an utter desire , hunger , vision , fight and determination for their clubs to succeed . i see those attributes , which are vital if a club is going to succeed , singularly lacking in our Board and owners . Can anyone tell me the last time the Smiths made a speech or wrote an article or responded to an interview where they expressed their hunger , fight and utter determination to see us play at the very highest level ?
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